Chain of Wealth

Personal Finance In Your Ears.

We’re Denis & Katie and this is where we get heard. We love talking to regular every day people who have a story to tell about money.


Our Podcasts

Chain of Wealth was started in November 2017 and now boasts over 100,000 500,000 downloads!

E60 – Matt from Spills Spot

Matt Spillar is the creator of Spills Spot, which started out as a place to create a portfolio for his writing. Once Matt got into the meat of the site however he realized that he wanted it to be much more and it has since has evolved into a full on personal finance blog where he inspires people to be more mindful in managing their money.

Matt has managed to pay off over $40,000 of student loan debt in 4 years and loves inspiring others to do the same. He currently resides in the Bay area with his wife and two dogs.

Welcome Matt!

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E59 – Krystel from All She Saves

Krystel from All She Saves is a young professional living in Minnesota who is doing huge things! Like paying back $77,000 in student loans. She documents her journey to paying off her debt, living life and working full time.


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E58 -Jay from Slowly Sipping coffee

Slowly Sipping Coffee or SSC is a personal finance blog run by a couple who are busy balancing family life, work life and blog life. They are on a quest to quit the 9-5 and have a lifestyle change to stay home and be full time parents by May of 2019.

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E57 – Matt Lane

Matt Lane is a the author of the blog, Optimize Your Life. As a part time blogger, and full time attorney, husband and new father, Matt’s goal is to help people learn that the purpose of money is to allow us to live a happier life, so we need to focus on the big picture of how to build that happy life rather than just focusing on the money and fun fact- we randomly found out we’re neighbors!


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E56 – Andrew from Shift Upwards

Andrew Fichter is the author of the blog, Shift Upwards. Here he talks about his unhappiness that he felt at his regular 9-5 and goes through the steps he took to eventually quit. After paying back $20,000 in student loans and saving about $45,000 he decided to take the plunge and retire from full time work to try out other avenues that peaked his creativity.


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E55 – Steve from Think Save Retire

Steve and his wife are early retirees at the age of 35. Steve realized late in his 20s that “stuff” was not going to bring him happiness and neither was slaving away at his 9-5. Now he travels full time in his airstream, named Charlie and enjoys the simple things in life. He is the creator of the blog Think, Save, Retire and there he offers his tips, tricks and advice to help motivate others to drop their commute and start enjoying life.

Welcome, Steve!

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E54 – Billy from Wealth Well Done

Billy is probably the most unique guest that we have had the pleasure of interviewing. His story starts at a party in college that lands him in prison for 10 years. Flash forward to now, Billy has a blog called Wealth Well Done, a book- SPARK, owns property, is married to a beautiful wife and has a net worth of over a quarter of a million dollars.

Welcome Billy!

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E53 – Damion Lupo from Transformation Nation

Damion Lupo is a best- selling author in personal finance and money thinking. He is the host of the Transformation Nation podcast and had owned over 30 companies.

Damion outrightly rejects regret and speaks to it as the ultimate life failure. He has a
unique approach to living a full-filled life by breaking rules and making more mistakes,
faster, than the competition.

In 2008 he lost the entire $20 million but recreated his wealth and reinvented his life
over 4 transformational years.

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E52 – Tyler Sheff from Cash Flow Guys

Tyler Sheff is the founder of and host of the Cash Flow Guys Podcast. He enjoys life, is a huge fisher, hunter and scuba diver. As a former police officer, Tyler has spent the last several years of his free time learning about investing in real estate.

Now, Tyler finds that he truly enjoys teaching and helping others learn how to build wealth.

Welcome, Tyler!

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E51 – Chris Browning from Popcorn Finance

Chris Browning is the creator of Popcorn Finance. After achieving a Finance degree and having an accounting job, he was still searching for a creative outlet.


Popcorn Finance was born. A quick personal finance podcast that is quick and easy to listen to- just like making popcorn.

Welcome Chris!

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E50 – Reflecting on Chain of Wealth

Denis & Katie reflect back on the first 50 episodes of Chain of Wealth and the journey that has changed their lives.

Check out for the new course on short term rentals.


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E49 – Gene Guarino from Residential Assisted Living Academy

Gene Guarino, CFP and Founder of the Residential Assisted Living Academy is regarded as “the” expert in the residential senior housing space.

Not only is Gene a CFP, Certified Financial Planner, in the US for over 20 years and licensed in Australia for the past 7 years, he has also spoken to over 300,000 people in 5 countries live from the stage. In addition, Gene has written 4 books and hosted 3 radio shows of his own.

Gene is a life long entrepreneur with 17 businesses over the past 39 years.

Welcome Gene!

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E48 – David Auten & John Schneider from Debt Free Guys

Today we have David Auten and John Schneider with us. David and John run the popular personal finance blog, Debt Free Guys. They have written for Yahoo Finance, Huffington Post, Business Insider, MSN Money, Time and many more. They have also been featured in media such as Market Report, NASDAQ, Christian Science Monitor and others. When David and John met, despite having a combined 13 years of financial services they had a combined $51,000 of credit card debt.

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E47 – Matt Miller from SSV Business

Matt Miller spent the first 9 years of his career as an Air Force pilot, before entering the private sector to work in both the medical device and advertising industries.

While a top performer in the corporate world, his long term desire was to be his own boss.
A good friend one day mentioned the gum ball machines he and his young daughters owned, and that conversation began a 10 year business quest that has brought Matt’s company, School Spirit Vending, to the cutting edge of both the vending and school fundraising industries.

Today, School Spirit Vending’s franchising program provides a proven and profitable business system for busy professionals and their families looking to develop secondary income streams with a limited time commitment.

Welcome Matt!

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E45 – Erik from The Mastermind Within

Erik is the creator behind the blog The Mastermind Within. His blog is a collection of books, advice and free stuff for readers to learn how to better themselves.

At only 25 years old, Erik is a homeowner and striving to increase his net worth.

Welcome Erik!

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E44 – Pete McPherson from Do You Even Blog

Pete McPherson writes killer bio paragraphs. But when he’s not doing that, he’s a full-time husband and dad, idealistic entrepreneur, purple cow thinker, blogger, marketer, CPA, data nerd, STAR WARS nerd, web and iOS developer…and really fast typer. He spends his days teaching people how to blog better (, as well as drafting and validating various project ideas.


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E43 – Jennifer Smith from Saving With Spunk

Today we have Jennifer Smith with us. Jennifer is the founder of the blog, Saving with Spunk. She is an acupuncturist by day and a blogger by night. She created the blog in the efforts of paying off debt while still having fun. Jen and her husband were able to pay off over $78,000 worth of debt. They have been debt free since August 2017!

Welcome Jen!

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E42 – Tanja Hester from Our Next Life

Tanja Hester is the author of the blog

She is a longtime communications strategist, an insatiable reader and audiophile, an obsessive searcher for the best gluten-free beers and baked goods, a one-time mathlete, a former yoga and spinning teacher, and a still-certified health coach.

Tanja along with her husband, Mark Bunge are formerly known by their blogging pseudonyms “Ms. ONL” and “Mr. ONL” and they retired at the end of 2017 at the meager ages of 38 and 41.

Tanja also has a podcast, The Fairer Cents.

Welcome Tanja!

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E41 – Craig Cody from Craig Cody & Company

Craig Cody is a certified tax coach, CPA, Business Owner and former NYC Police Officer with 17 years of experience on the force.

In addition to being a CPA for the past 15 years, he is also a certified tax coach.

As a certified tax coach, Craig belongs to a select group of tax practitioners throughout the country who undergo extensive training and continued education on various tax planning techniques and strategies to become, as well as remain, certified.

With this organization, Craig has co-authored an Amazon best seller book, Secrets of a Tax-Free life.

Welcome Craig!

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