Personal Finance In Your Ears.

We’re Denis & Katie and this is where we get heard. We love talking to regular every day people who have a story to tell about money.


Our Podcasts

Chain of Wealth was started in November 2017 and now boasts over 100,000 500,000 downloads!

E26 – Stephen Rischall from 1080 Financial Group

Today we are talking to Stephen Rischall from 1080 Financial Group. Stephen began learning to invest at the age of thirteen. In college, he helped manage the University Corporation Student Investment Fund while starting his career in financial services. Stephen is an award winning financial adviser and has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, Los Angeles Times and Investment News. Welcome, Stephen!

E24 – Zina Kumok from Debt Free After 3

Zina Kumok is the founder of the blog Debt Free after 3– A former sports writer, Zina has written for the Associated Press and have covered the New York Yankees, NBA Draft and Final Four. Currently living in Denver she is a full-time freelance writer specializing in personal finance. She has taught several classes on budgeting, how to save money and how other people can pay off their loans. Welcome Zina!

E23 – Max Keilson from Nomad Trading Co

Nomad Trading Co. was founded in Summer 2016 by college friends Max Keilson and Jon Epstein to change how people treat drinks and snacks."We believe that you are what you eat. We wanted to consume things that were healthy, but that also are sourced to the highest ethical standards, and with a pointed focus on sustainability." Welcome, Max!

E22 – Ruby Escalona from A Journey We Love

Ruby is the main blogger of the website, “A Journey We Love” that she documents achievements with her husband, Peter.Ruby loves travel hacking, finding deals, and thinking of ways to save money!Originally from the Philippines, she moved to the USA to pursue an employment opportunity.She now lives in Jacksonville, Florida and has been to more than 20 countries and 16 US States. She has also backpacked around South East Asia.She hasn’t quit her job to pursue her passions– yet. That will happen once she reaches financial independence. Welcome Ruby!

E21 – Abby Chao from CollegeBacker

Abby Chao is Co-Founder & COO of CollegeBacker, a simple and social way to save for college.In just 5 minutes, a parent can open a tax-advantaged 529 College Savings Plan, determine a personalized savings plan for their child, and invite family and friends to contribute.Plus, with CollegeBacker Gifts, anyone can kick start a child’s college fund by sending a redeemable gift.

E20 – John Mitchell from LPL Financial

LPL Financial is one of the leading financial services companies and the largest independent broker/dealer in the nation as reported by Financial Planning Magazine, June 1996-2017.For about four decades, the firm has served as an enabling partner, supporting financial advisors in their goals of protecting and growing their clients’ wealth.Today, we are speaking with John Mitchell. John Mitchell is a registered representative with, and securities are offered through LPL financial, Member FINRA/SIPC. 

E18 – Kristin Larsen from Believe in a Budget

Kristin Larsen is a full time blogger.Her blog Believe In A Budget was started in January 2015, when she shared her journey on saving money and getting out of debt by doing random paying jobs.With limited experience with blogging, she figured that if she could get one person to read her blog and help that person start a side hustle, her goal would be met. Now, Kristin is making thousands of dollars each month all thanks to her blog.Kristin runs a highly successful Pinterest course called Pinterest Presence which Katie is currently taking and highly recommends for anyone interested. Welcome, Kristin!

E17 – Renee Dunn from Amazi Foods

Amazi was officially founded in April 2016, but has been a dream for years. After studying in Uganda, the founder, Renee, was shocked by the high degree of entrepreneurship, but surprised by the endless piles of tomatoes, plantains, bananas going to waste- There was a lack of business growth, employment opportunities, and variety in product offerings.Renee was inspired by Issues of competition, huge food waste, and unemployment rates. She wanted to add value to natural resources - by providing growth avenues for entrepreneurs, the unemployed, and farmers.Katie heard Renee speak at the DC Start Up week a few weeks ago and thought your story was incredible. Your company makes plantain chips. For any listeners who don’t know what a plantain chip is- they look like a larger banana and you cut them to look like a chip. Welcome Renee!

E16 – Erin Lowry from Broke Millennial

Erin Lowry is an outstanding writer and is the author of Broke Millennial- stop scraping by and get your financial life together. She has countless blogs on her website that help the 20 and 30 somethings learn and plan for their financial future.Erin leads by example- telling you in detail all of her tips. Welcome Erin!

E15 – Happy Thanksgiving

Happy thanksgiving everyone!Today we decided an episode with just myself and Katie would be appropriate as it's thanksgiving.We're currently in the middle of a financial decision ourselves and we thought we'd share it with all our Chainers to give people an idea as to how we discuss a financial decision.

E14 – Michelle Schroeder-Gardner from Making Sense of Cents

Michelle Schroeder-Gardner graduated college in 2010, then started worked as a financial analyst at a valuation and investment banking firm.She then went on to receive her MBA in 2012.Michelle decided to leave that life behind and is now a full time blogger and freelancer.Her website “Making Sense of Cents” has won more awards and mentions than can be named. She and her husband travel the country in their RV and wouldn’t have it any other way.She makes most of her money with her premium course, which I had the opportunity of creating a Making Sense of Affiliate Marketing course review. Welcome Michelle!

E13 – Juliana Cardona Mejia from Street Entrepreneurs

Juliana Cardona Mejia is the founder of Street Entrepreneurs. A nonprofit organization in service of providing entrepreneurs of all backgrounds with practical knowledge and access to networks and start up grants.Juliana has worked tirelessly to grow her business from the ground up. She has worked to teach herself and others what it takes to be successfulWelcome, Juliana!

E12 – Greg McBride from Bankrate is a one stop shop for financing. They offer services such that include personal finance loans, automobile loans, mortgages and credit cards.Today we are speaking with Greg McBride, a Chief Financial Analyst and a graduate from the University of Florida. He is the Senior Vice President for helps provide analysis and advice on personal finance. With two decades of experience in personal finance. He also has the ability to provide an in-depth interpretation and practical advice to listeners.Greg, hopefully you can help our Chainers out with planning for home buying and retirement.

Want to Sponsor Chain of Wealth?